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Schneider Xenar 100mm F3.5

 
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alfred67



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody know anything about the 100mm Schneider Xenar F3.5 lenses? Specifically, I'd like to know of what lens design they are (I'm assuming Tessar), what shutters they're designed to go in (they're size-0, but what shutter has the correct F-stop markings?), and if they're any good (quality-wise)....

Thanks for the help,
-Al.
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pv17vv



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Location: The Ardennes, Belgium

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al,
This was discussed here some time ago.
http://graflex.org/helpboard/viewtopic.php?topic=741&forum=10&6
Georges
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alfred67



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response, but I believe the discussion to which you refer involves the 105mm Xenar, whereas I'm interested in the 100mm.... Perhaps the same info applies to the 100mm as to the 105mm??

Thanks again,
-Al.
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45PSS



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Schneider's web site:
Xenar 3.5/100mm


OPTO-MECHANICAL DATA
(with lens focused at infinity)
Lens elements, Groups
4, 3

Shutter Size
0

Flange Focal Distance
96.2mm

Filter Mounting Thread
M 40.5 X 0.5

Weight (with shutter)
225g

Overall Length
37.7mm




IMAGE DATA
(with lens focused at infinity)
Recommended Format (negative) Size
65 X 90 mm

Image Circle Diameter at f/16
116mm

Angle of View at f/16
60 degrees

Lens Displacement at f/16 (vertical/horizontal)
_
56 X 72 mm ; 56 X 72 mm
17.5/14.8mm

65 X 90 mm ; 58.2 X 81 mm
14.9/9.7mm




OPTICAL DATA
(with lens focused at infinity)
Effective Focal Length (F')
101mm

Back Focal Length (S'F')
84.5mm

Principal Point Separation (HH')
1.9mm

(it wouldn't link)

Now, what did you say the serial number was??

And now for those intrested in that other one, the Xenar 4.5/105mm


OPTO-MECHANICAL DATA
(with lens focused at infinity)
Lens elements, Groups
4, 3

Shutter Size
0

Flange Focal Distance
99.8mm

Filter Mounting Thread
M 40.5 X 0.5

Weight (with shutter)
190g

Overall Length
30.4mm




IMAGE DATA
(with lens focused at infinity)
Recommended Format (negative) Size
65 X 90 mm

Image Circle Diameter at f/16
127mm

Angle of View at f/16
62 degrees

Lens Displacement at f/16 (vertical/horizontal)
_
56 X 72 mm ; 56 X 72 mm
23.1/19.9mm

65 X 90 mm ; 58.2 X 81 mm
18.5/14.8mm




OPTICAL DATA
(with lens focused at infinity)
Effective Focal Length (F')
106mm

Back Focal Length (S'F')
93.1mm

Principal Point Separation (HH')
1.0mm



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[ This Message was edited by: 45PSS on 2003-03-23 21:22 ]
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Jim23



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great lens! The 100mm Xenar that I picked up second hand that has the last-type MXV Compur shutter and is labeled "Technika." I assume that this was the bottom-end lens for the Linhof 6x7/6x9 camera (the better lens was no doubt the Xenotar). I had S. Grimes c/l/a the shutter and mount it on an extra Century Graphic lensboard. I use it for 6x7 and 6x9 formats. It was sure an improvement over the 3-element Graftar! I was also able to realign the Kalart RF to this focal length (thanks to procedure on graflex.org). Another strange coincidence is that the focusing scale for the 101mm Graftar is and exact match for the actual focal length of the Xenar! Thus, when I loupe the ground glass at infinity and set the focusing scale, it also is dead-on accurate at 4, 8, 15 feet, etc.

I use the roller-type RH10 120 mag., for color, but still use cut film for b/w (Ilford still make HP5+ in 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 sheets) and of course sheet film does not have the flatness problems with roll curl.......
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alecj



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: the "strange coincidence", it's not so strange, but rather lucky for you. Graflex matched its focusing scales very carefully to the lens being used. The stated focal length on the lens is NOT necessarily the exact focal length. For that reason, Graflex had 5 different scales for 100mm and another 5 for 101mm.
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