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		mopar_guy
 
 
  Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 126 Location: Washington, the State
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:16 am    Post subject: Rollfilm holder for infrared? | 
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				I have several 2x3 Pacemaker Speeds and Crowns and knobwind "23 Graphic" rollfilm holders.  I was thinking of trying of trying some of the Rollei 400 IR film in 120 and was wondering if they would be "safe" for infrared.
 
 
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		Henry
 
 
  Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 1650 Location: Allentown, Pennsylvania
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Well, if you can shoot 35mm IR film in a regular ol' 35mm camera, I don't see why you could not shoot 120 IR film in a roll film holder on a Graflex/Graphic camera. Or am I missing something here? I believe I remember something about having to use a red filter when shooting IR. Others please chime in here. Disclaimer: I have never shot IR film. | 
			 
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		Dan Fromm
 
 
  Joined: 14 May 2001 Posts: 2159 Location: New Jersey
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The plastic darkslides may not be opaque to IR, Henry.
 
 
FWIW, my SubSea/Graflex RH-8 has a stainless steel darkslide. | 
			 
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		mopar_guy
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| The darkslides look to be made of plastic. | 
			 
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		Les
 
 
  Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 2682 Location: Detroit, MI
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				the darkslides are made of the same (plastic) material all of the other IR safe film holders are, so they should be safe.  Now the roll holder body itself?????? _________________ "In order to invent, you need a good imagination and a lot of junk" Thomas Edison | 
			 
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		mopar_guy
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I think that the best way to find out would be to try some IR film and see what happens.
 
 
Thanks for the replies.
 
 
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		Henry
 
 
  Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 1650 Location: Allentown, Pennsylvania
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Don't forget the focussing issue with IR film. On 35mm camera lenses, there is a little red mark on the focus scale which is the necessary adjustment---IR focusses on a different plane than visible light (closer, IIRC). I don't recall ever seeing such a mark on my MF and LF lenses. Finally, exposure with IR film is largely a matter of guesswork, according to a source I consulted. Sounds like the way to go is to shoot some IR and keep careful notes of every single exposure; IOW, make your  own instruction manual. | 
			 
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		Les
 
 
  Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 2682 Location: Detroit, MI
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:39 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I don't know of any accurate way of putting a an IR mark on a scale for a Speed or Crown. "Miniature Cameras" have a much longer focus scale and the logarithmic nature takes care of the constantly changing amount you have to shift the lens.  
 
 
Most people I know that shot IR "rack it just a bit and stop down like all hell" _________________ "In order to invent, you need a good imagination and a lot of junk" Thomas Edison | 
			 
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		1banjo
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:01 am    Post subject:  | 
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				hey all 
 
the film should have all that on the box BUT the focusses mite be by persentage
 
 
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