Graflex.org Forum Index Graflex.org
Get help with your Graflex questions here
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Any way to 'swell' leather once it has shrunk?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Graflex.org Forum Index -> Speed Graphic Help
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
bruiser



Joined: 15 Oct 2006
Posts: 260
Location: Northern NSW Australia

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:36 am    Post subject: Any way to 'swell' leather once it has shrunk? Reply with quote

Hi all,

Just took delivery of an elderly Speed Graphic generally in ok condition but the leather on nearly every surface has shrunk, especially on the drop bed and the focus hood.

Assuming that leather shrinks when dry is there a remedy to 'swell' it back into shape, like gentle wetting or ferocious steaming (just kidding with the last one) or maybe numerous doses of leather conditioner?

All replies received with thanks.

Cheers,
Bruce
http://graflex.coffsbiz.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
glennfromwy



Joined: 29 Nov 2001
Posts: 903
Location: S.W. Wyoming

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally this is caused by extreme humidity or outright wetness. It doesn't shrink from being dry, but from being wet for a long period, then drying. It's doubtful you can save it. If you do steam it and try to stretch it, I suspect it will disintegrate. You might want to consider a visit to the Camera Leather website to see what's available. Is the camera itself damaged? Be wary of loose box joints and such before you go too far.
_________________
Glenn

"Wyoming - Where everybody is somebody else's weirdo"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bruiser



Joined: 15 Oct 2006
Posts: 260
Location: Northern NSW Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for the reply...shows what I know about leather. I'd better join an S&M club!

From what I can see by peering into all the corners the mahogany seems fine, no swelling or conversely, looseness. The lens is clean, front and rear shutters work well, the rangefinder is good and all movements are as they should be.

The body leather itself isn't too bad at all, it's pretty much just the front and back (focus hood) that have the problem.

Renewing the leather on the rear is not a problem as it's flat but the drop bed leather looks difficult to do well and I have seen some BAD replacement attempts. Anyone got that one worked out?

Cheers,
Bruce
http://graflex.coffsbiz.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
glennfromwy



Joined: 29 Nov 2001
Posts: 903
Location: S.W. Wyoming

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce, though the leather on the door looks like it would need to be molded, I've found that with real leather, this is not the case. I just did one that had the same problems on both ends. Just for giggles I used red leather, stuck down with Pliobond. It looks perfect, just red. It was very easy to get it to mold to the shape of the front door. I don't believe leatherette products would work as well, but I don't know. I got my leather from a S.F. 49ers jacket I found at a yard sale. A tad thick for some things, but I've used it to cover several cameras. Cheers!
_________________
Glenn

"Wyoming - Where everybody is somebody else's weirdo"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bruiser



Joined: 15 Oct 2006
Posts: 260
Location: Northern NSW Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Glenn, I feel encouraged now!

Many thanks,
Bruce
http://graflex.coffsbiz.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
45PSS



Joined: 28 Sep 2001
Posts: 4081
Location: Mid Peninsula, Ca.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-00399-Pledge-Furniture-Polish/dp/B000LUTVYA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1264537453&sr=1-5

works wonders on dried leather, leatherette, and shutter curtains. It will prevent shrinking but probably will not undo shrinking.
_________________
The best camera ever made is the one that YOU enjoy using and produces the image quality that satifies YOU.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Henry



Joined: 09 May 2001
Posts: 1648
Location: Allentown, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glennfromwy wrote:
I got my leather from a S.F. 49ers jacket I found at a yard sale.


Now that football season is (almost) over, there should be lots of cast-off team jackets out there. Around here they would be Phila. Eagle jackets; great if you need green leather!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bruiser



Joined: 15 Oct 2006
Posts: 260
Location: Northern NSW Australia

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

I tried a thick 'horsey' leather conditioner (called ReVitalize) for saddles and reins, applied VERY generously all over the camera leather and left it for 48 hours.

Now the dry, shrunken leather is shiny, full and plump and has expanded to the point of looking practically brand new! The rear door had a gap of around 5mm between the edge of the leather and the edge of the door, now down to 1mm.

I managed to remove the front door leather completely, gave it a good going over with the conditioner and where the leather scarcely reached the edges of the door before, it now wraps over the edges again to where it should be.

I'm stoked!
Bruce
http://graflex.coffsbiz.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
glennfromwy



Joined: 29 Nov 2001
Posts: 903
Location: S.W. Wyoming

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha! Great! I'll have to look for some of that stuff. We have lots of horse people around here, so it should be easy to get a lead on it. I know the popular Lexol conditioner has not worked for me on old crispy leather. The times I've tried it, it just makes it fall all apart. Glad you got it fixed!
_________________
Glenn

"Wyoming - Where everybody is somebody else's weirdo"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Graflex.org Forum Index -> Speed Graphic Help All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group