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[Barney]

What series adaptors does this lens take Please. I did several searches but could not find anything. Can you get one to slip on and then go to 52mm?


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[t.r.sanford]

The front flange is about 38mm. in diameter and, as you have deduced, is designed to work with a slip-on adapter. The sort commonly used on 127mm. "Ektar" and 135mm. "Optar" and "Raptar" lenses had a setscrew; the alternative has a base in the form of a shallow cylinder with a number of vertical slits, allowing you to make very slight modifications to the diameter with a small pair of pliers.

All that I have seen, of either kind, were designed to accept Series 6 accessories. You might find a Series 6 to (custom) 52mm. step-up ring. It might be easier to find a Series 6 to Series 7 step-up, and a Series 7 adapter for custom 52mm. threaded accessories.

There has been a good deal of discussion here about adapter rings for the usual "Graphic" lenses, and perhaps a search would be informative.

[Barney]

Thanks T.R. I have done several searches, and as I said did not find anything related to what I wanted to know.


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[glennfromwy]

The series VI slip on adapter is one and a half inches, if I remember right. I don't know what that is in mm and I woud be glad to dig out one of mine and measure it if you can't find better info. There is an oddball method I use when I need to use modern screw in filters. I use a series VI to VII step up adapter and put a 49mm screw in filter in backward. The ring is too thick to fit in as it normally would. If I then need a lens hood, I just use a rubber one, opened backward and screwed onto the male threads of the filter. Just barely enough theads stick out of the adapter to work, and some may not. If you had a blank ring or a UV filter, you could also reverse mount a 49 to 52 step ring.
A screwy method, but it WILL work, if need be. Personally, I very rarely need to resort to this, as I have loads of series VI filters for black & white.

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[glennfromwy]

Try looking at KEH.com (I think) for used series to screw in adapters. If I have it right, they were rather inexpensive the last time I looked.

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[t.r.sanford]

The ingenuity described in these discussions of adapter rings has led me to wonder whether one might not take a common threaded Series 7 adapter for, say, a 43mm. front flange, and glue a thin strip of something fairly thick and pliable, like the clothbacked vinyl formerly used for auto seat covers, to its smooth inside diameter.

Some upholsterers' stores sell scraps of the diverse materials they use in their work, and something useful might be found there, even soft leather. I'd use "Pliobond" as the adhesive.

This would take some experimentation, but might result in a usable slip-on adapter ring -- without destroying it for continued service as a 43mm. Series 7 accessory.

The 49mm. custom accessory size is very close to Series 7, one or two millimeters smaller in diameter. But 52mm. is a tad too big to work without an additional fitting.

[Barney]

Glenn...I measured the front element on the 127 Ektar. It measures exactly 1.498 with a pair of Starrett Verniers. For your info the conversion to millimeters from inches is exactly 25.4. Take 25.4 times the inches as in 1.498 and you get 38.04 MM. So calling it 38mm would be correct. I have found a Series 6 for drop in Kodak filters which I like. I want this for color work on with the Ektar as they were designed for that as I understand. I use this lens to do Polaroid Image Transfers, and want the filters for color correction for various times of the day. Mid day I don't need one but early and late or overcast I do. Thanks for all the help and discussion.

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[Rangemaster]

I have posted this before, but here goes again, the quickest way I have found to be able to use modern normal screw in filters on all of my older lenses is the diminutive rubber lens hood ring, I find them at the local shops, cut the rubber off and then a couple of bands of gaffer tape around the lens and then screw then right onto the lens, this allows me to use step ups and is a very inexpensive way to use modern filters, I have them on over 10 of my vintage lenses, never have had a problem and I think the most I have ever paid for one is about $1.00

Works very good and never had one come off.

Dave

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[Barney]

Rangemaster: I am not trying to be smart with you but I have no idea what you are talking about. What is Gaffer tape? What is the diminutive rubber lens hood ring? How do you screw something into gaffer tape?
If I have located a Series 6 adaptor to fit on the lens that seems like an inexpensive and somewhat practical way to make things work in order to hold inexpensive Kodak glass filters.



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[glennfromwy]

B&H carries a small inventory of series filters but I think they are over priced for what you get.
see: bhphotovideo.com

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[45PSS]

Barney,
Gaffer(s) tape is a cloth tape that adheares to many surfaces and does not leave residue like duct (plastic) or masking (paper) tapes do.
From Merriam-Webster's: a lighting electrician on a motion-picture or television set.
Possibally developed for such applications, good holding ability while being easy to remove without leaving a mess.
Ask for some at a good hardware store.

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[Rangemaster]

Well Now Barney....

Gaffers tape is used in the film industry and movie industry quite a bit, you should be able to pick up a roll at any good photo store, there is also a version around sold at hardware stores for use with electrical conections that might need to be easy to take the tape off of, as far as the 'diminutive' lens hood ring, if you look at a rubber lens hood that screws into the front filter ring on lenses, it is the black plastic or metal ring that has threads on it, very easy to cut off and quite often you can find them at the camera store in the junk box because they are comming loose, and you can get them for free. Normally if you have a lens of a certain size, and 1 to 2 wraps of gaffers tape, which is really quite soft, but will grip the threads, you need to find one that is about 2mm bigger in diameter than your lens and it will screw into the tape with no problems and not be perminate, and it allows you to use filters and step up rings right off the shelf,instead of trying to find series 6 or 7 filters, which in the area of the country I live in can be very difficult to find and expensive when you do! Like I said, I have been doing it for years and currently own 24 different large format cameras and probably 50 different lenses for the various cameras I own, this way it makes it real easy to use the filter ring on several different lenses, as stated earlier I have 10 different lenses set up right now that way.

I hope that clears something up, if you don't understand, then by all means please ask, I would even be willing to send you a sample of gaffers tape, quite an indespensible product for the photo industry, great for all kinds of things, such as repairing bellows, holding filter rings, taping flashes to the side of your camera, etc. One of the most important tools in my camera bags...

Dave


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[ This Message was edited by: Rangemaster on 2004-06-23 22:09 ]

[Barney]

Thanks all for the great information! We are never too old to learn.

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