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Dave · Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 78 Location: Canada

OK, Graflexers, since you're talking about B&J Dagors, explain this one: 355mm Schneider Dagor in #3 shutter.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15248&item=3816275119&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

If I didn't see the evidence of it with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe it. I never heard of S-K making Dagors, let alone up to the mid-1980s. Is there a story?

Handsome piece of glass anyway. Would be scary on an 8 x 10.

[ This Message was edited by: Dave on 2004-05-22 01:41 ]

Nick · Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 494

The company was bought I think during the mid 70s. They moved production to Europe. IIRC the coverage of the Swiss lenses are smaller then those made in the US. That price seems way out there to me.

primus96 · Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:20 pm Post subject:

C.P Goerz of America was trading till 1973 when Schneider acquired them.
Schneider re-manufactured a 355mm f8 Golden Dagor as recently as the 1980s.
The Sn of the lens suggests a min 1985 date.
If it were a limited edition then the price may be fair. However that doesen't mean i'll be bidding on it. It couldn't be used on my 'Crown anyhow.

Nick · Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 494

If a person is using 8x10 or shorter then the Nikon m300 is less then 1/2 the starting price for that Kern Dagor. Or if somebody wanted something with more coverage almost all the modern lenses aren't much more money then the starting price. That's for a brand new lens.

Unless a person really wants a modern Dagor I personally think the price is high. Plenty of choices on the new market. Even more good choices on the used market.

Dave · Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 78 Location: Canada

Thanks for the enlightening discussion. I didn't know anything about this-- I thought the last Dagors were hatched around 1960 or so.

Yeah, you're all right: a new lens for the same money would probably outperform the pants off this. Still impressive to think there's only four (coated) air-glass interfaces there, so I bet this thing is seriously contrasty.

Hey, if primus can't put it on his Crown, does this mean I can't use it on my Century?

primus96 · Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject:

I have never seen a #3 lens panel on offer for the Pacemaker Graphic. Also the bellows draw limit imposes a maximum focal length of around 220-240mm.
You can get a modern Nikkor 300mm f5.6 new for the same sort of dough as the Dagor.
I am going to watch this auction to see if the vendor gets any interest.

Les · Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 2682 Location: Detroit, MI

Dave,

You can use it on your Century, as long as it's a Cenutry No 7 or 8 portait camera in either 8x10 or 11x14.

les

Dan Fromm · Joined: 14 May 2001 Posts: 2144 Location: New Jersey

Dave · Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 78 Location: Canada

Hey, hello-o. Primus. Dan. I was joking. This thing's the diameter of a pizza, and it would cover a basketball court. Well, a small basketball court anyway. I know it won't work on my Century.

Now if I had one of the cameras Les is talking about, that would be a different story. But $1500? That's nuts. That's a good used car.

Dan Fromm · Joined: 14 May 2001 Posts: 2144 Location: New Jersey