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78ltd



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: YES Reply with quote

Yup, my early Singers have a silver colored wind lever with the notation panel on top instead of on the carriage like the General Precisions.
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SYNCHROJAMES



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Roll Backs Reply with quote

I have two roll backs-#1 RH-10, SINGER, date code M2A, black aluminum? lever, notation spot on center of lever hub, textured surfaces top & bottom, shell marked GRAFLEX/SUBSEA, no date mark, alignment lugs so that roll holder goes in one way, darkslide flush with edge of base.

#2 RH-10, GENERAL PRECISION, date code F0E, blue plastic lever, rectangular notation spot left of winder dial, smooth surfaces top & bottom, shell unmarked, but matching date code F0E, blue dot by darkslide, no alignment lugs, darkslide extends 1/2" past base edge, no grip, just a hole, black on one side.
I found someone locally selling a SINGER RH-20 (no base) for $50-is it possible to run 120 film in a 220 back? That would provide more options out in the field.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a while Graflex marked the 6x7cm cases as RH-10 and RH-20, so that would lead you to believe it's not only possible but Graflex approved.

but I did find a single statement in Tim Holden's personal notes that said they weren't. But no indication of why. I suspect film flatness as the 220 doesn't have the paper backing, but it could also be any number of other things.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey all
minty brands of cameras take 120 or 220 ! 220 film is thicker then 120 & stronger
as you are pulling on it not the paper like 120 ! I use 120 in my RH20 all the time
as of yet to see any problums in doing it!
as to using a RH 10 shell with a RH20 insert it works & so does a RH20 shell with
RH10 insert.

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SYNCHROJAMES



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Roll backs Reply with quote

I checked KODAK & ILFORD and neither one lists 220 film-whatever is out there in the stores is it. I may still pick up the RH-20, as it appears to have less mileage than either of mine.
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Henry



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=220+roll+film&N=0. No b/w film, though---it's all color slide or neg.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Roll film back Reply with quote

I went back and scooped up the RH-20 back-even better than I had hoped! In its original box, with an extra MIL-SPEC type label. date on label (8/75) matches date code (H5A). felt on pressure spring shows no discernable wear, and empty spool is metal. My guess is maybe 1-2 rolls thru it, if that much. Now I have a spare in case my other backs die.

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Henry



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what would happen if you ran a roll of 120 through a 220 roll film back?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey
it works fine for me I do it all the time the presser plate is spring load !
the 220 film is thicker then the 120
SO 120 + paper is about the same thickness as 220 film
as long as the film is up tight your good

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you run out of film at frame count 10 instead of frame count 20.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

45PSS wrote:
And you run out of film at frame count 10 instead of frame count 20.


Um, right. I was wondering about frame spacing, and I should have asked that specific question in my previous post.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes but you mite get a #11 but it mite only be a 6x6

I shot frame 11 knowing that I mite not get much

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