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Les · Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 2682 Location: Detroit, MI

Doing some more of my indepth research and was wondering if anybody had an FP so I could grill them with inane questions.

You're right I was never very good a PR, always took the honest approach.

jpmose · Joined: 29 May 2001 Posts: 164 Location: Atlanta, GA

Les,

A Speed Graphic Model FP just appeared on that famous auction site we all know and love!

JP

extraparts · Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 59 Location: texas

I don't remember if mine is an FP or not, and it is not at the top of the pile right now. However, I did find this reference from a 1960 Graflex price information sheet listing the then new "Pacemaker 45 Speed Graphic Model 1000" which most of us would now call a "super speed"

I quote: "This camera does not have a focal plane shutter. The Speed Graphic cameras with focal plane shutter as hereafter supplied will be identified in the future as "Speed Graphic, Model FP"

This confirms my understanding that the 1960 foward FP is just like a standard 1958 speed, except with a different name badge.

extraparts · Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 59 Location: texas

I couldn't stand it, and had to look. It was on the very bottom of the pile. It is an "FP". But other than the one name plate on the front standard, I think it is just a normal top rangefinder Speed.

extraparts · Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 59 Location: texas

Think first...Type second...Think first...type second. The Speed Graphic Model 1000 was not a super speed, it was a Crown with the 1/1000 second leaf shutter.

Les · Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 2682 Location: Detroit, MI

JPmose:
I had the camera on iBuy in my sight buy a change in their practices (they no longer accept email as a user id when bidding) kept me from getting it. sooo....

Extraparts......we need to talk. you can email me at LNPhoto@twmi.rr.com

extraparts wrote:
"This confirms my understanding that the 1960 foward FP is just like a standard 1958 speed, except with a "

I agree to a point. I've got a '67 catalog that shows the 1000 speed shutter still available, but they had gone back to "Speed Graphic/Crown Graphic" terminology and dropped the idea of a seperate model for a Crown with the 1000 shutter.

So now we know it started in '60 and ended sometime after '64 (when the ebay camera was made) but before '67. That's news in and of itself.

[ This Message was edited by: Les on 2003-06-19 19:17 ]

jpmose · Joined: 29 May 2001 Posts: 164 Location: Atlanta, GA

Les,

Another Model FP is on -bay! Take a look.

JP